Hunting and Fishing Post SHTF Part II

Posted: September 29, 2014 by gamegetterII in fishing, hunting, prepping, survival
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For those who intend on hunting and fishing as a big part of their food supply post SHTF,things will be much different than they are today.

The big game animals near any large city/urban area is going to either be shot out,or very skittish when any humans are in the area.

The farther away from urban areas-the better. There will be fewer people hunting the game,and the game will not be stressed and skittish due to a huge increase in the number of people in the woods.

The areas just outside of the cities outer ring suburbs should be okay to hunt,the game may be pressured and skittish,but as long as there are still signs,the animals are still there. Hunting will be more of a challenge,there will be fewer animals,and they will be even more wary of humans.

The key to taking big game in those conditions will be finding bedding areas,food sources,and water sources,along with the trails/travel corridors used by the game in the area. The best spots to hunt will be near bedding areas,and between the bedding area and water source,second best will be between water source and food source. Once you locate the trails,pick a spot for a blind,using as much of the surroundings as possible,use grasses,branches,sticks,leaves,downed trees,etc. to make a makeshift blind-unless you somehow managed to hang onto a few large pieces of camo burlap.

Pick your spots for your blinds-you should always have more than one,due to wind direction making hunting one location impossible,as long as your blinds are downwind of the direction of the game’s travel,you should be able to take a deer,elk,moose,etc. If the wind is blowing towards the direction game is most likely approaching your blind from-do not use that blind.

Using a compound bow or a crossbow would be the best method to use,if it’s at all possible,gunshots will likely cause game to scatter quickly,as the animals will not be used to the sound of gunfire-unless it’s common in the area due to fighting between groups of people.

One big deer,or an elk or moose will feed a lot of people. Some can be dried to make jerky,some can be smoked,some can be eaten right away. The bigger your group of people to feed,the better off you are hunting big game.

Another animal that will feed a lot of people is feral hogs-we are sure to see an increase in the number of them in any long-term SHTF situation,they multiply very quickly,and become very adept at avoiding humans. The number of them in the U.S. is growing pretty much monthly,with no signs of slowing down. They may be the one animal still available near large urban areas after most people have left.

Small game can be trapped or snared along with being hunted,and can easily feed smaller groups of people,and help feed larger groups.

Air rifles are great for taking small game,they are quiet,and a tin of 250-500 pellets can provide a lot of meals.

Rabbits can be taken in grassy areas when feeding early and late in the day,in winter,if you have a shotgun,you can kick brushpiles and many time a rabbit will take off from the pile.

Ducks and geese can be hunted near decent sized streams,ponds,lakes,rivers and bays,game like pheasants,chukars,quail,partridges,doves and wild turkeys can be taken in woods and in brushy areas. Pigeons can be taken in cities/urban areas-if you end up stuck in one.

Squirrels can almost always be taken in woods containing oak,hickory,beech,and black walnut trees.

You can make jerky out of the bigger small game animals,smoked duck,turkey,pheasant,or quail are very good,and will preserve your food for a while without refrigeration.

Fishing is kind of hard to predict in an extended SHTF situation,if too many people start using gill nets,large seines,and fish traps-the fish will disappear from smaller streams,creeks and rivers,along with smaller reservoirs,and river mouths and the bays where rivers enter big lakes like the Great Lakes,or the ocean.

Big river systems like the Ohio,Mississipi,Missouri,James,St. Johns,Delaware,Susquehanna,Columbia,Snake,Red,etc. should continue to hold large numbers of fish,as there are so many smaller streams that feed the river systems. The fish populations in big river systems will be hard to fish out.

The systems of reservoirs,such as the TVA should also hold plenty of fish for years.

Having a boat,canoe,even a small raft will be a plus.

The freshwater version of a longline-commonly known as a trotline,will be one of the best ways to insure a steady supply of freshly caught fish,there’s sure to be plenty of empty 2-liter soda bottles,bleach bottles and other plastic jugs available to use as floats,both to keep baits off the bottom a little,and as markers,so you can follow your line.

Lines like this can either be anchored to the bank,or allowed to drift if you have a boat of some type. Hooks can be baited with worms,grubs,grasshoppers,crickets,small frogs,clams,mussels,shrimp,cut up pieces of fish,minnows,even entrails from small game.

If you have managed to keep some fishing rods,reels and tackle,you will be able to fish in more conventional ways as well.

The fish should be available much longer than big game animals in urban areas,likely longer than much of the small game as well.

I  do have several spools of fishing line,several hundred hooks of various sizes,snap swivels,3 way swivels,sinkers,floats, and a wide array of lures.

Supplementing your survival food supply with fish and game is a good plan-relying on hunting and fishing as 100% of your survival food supply is a very bad idea.

That’s my opinion on the subject-it will not be like an extended hunting and/or fishing trip,and relying on only fish and game is simply not a good survival plan.


Do more PT !

  1. gamegetterII says:

    For whatever reason,much of the small game is pretty much gone from many areas in the U.S. Years ago,there were plenty of rabbits,grouse,pheasants,doves,etc. Today,in many areas,there are very few of these animals left.
    Whitetailed deer are overpopulated in most of the country,in a SHTF situation,where game laws do not apply,I could shoot a deer nearly every day. Preferably with a bow and arrow,or crossbow and bolt.
    As I said,drying some for jerky,smoking some of the meat are ways to preserve it with no refrigeration.
    Setting traps and snares is a great way to catch small game a birds,also some larger game animals,in many areas of the U.S. we would be better off taking a single large animal,deer,moose,elf,feral hog,etc. because there are simply too few small game animals around.

    As for fishing,what I would do is similar to what you describe-a trotline is a long line with multiple hooks dropping down from it. Depending on the body of water,sometimes the hooks must be kept off the bottom,that’s what the floats are used for.

    Some fish just will not bite on a dead bait in the water,where we live there are trout called steelhead,they live in lake Erie all summer,then run up the streams and rivers to spawn from fall until spring. The only thing I’ve caught them on that’s a bait is salmon eggs,or spawn from another steelhead. Easier to catch them with spinners,crankbaits,even fly fish for them.

    The area we plan to go to does have small game in abundance,I will get traps and more snares,you are right,setting a trapline beats freezing and maybe getting a deer or elk. There’s also a 7 acre lake on the property,plenty of edible fish in it. Whatever foods we have stored won’t last forever,I would rather hunt and fish for as much as possible,as long as there is game available.

    Can you own compound bows and crossbows in G.B.?


  2. TP says:

    Except foraging is a great way to eat when there is nothing else open to you like a local 7-11.

    Hunting game is a mugs game unless you KNOW how to trap.
    All that effort for a single deer which in summer (and in the field) is difficult to store as fridges aren’t usually available in the woods.

    Yep I’m talking trapping deer, hog, and down to rabbit if not squirrel, ground hogs, and birds.
    Bows and guns require stealth and ambush however you are SEVERELY limiting your chances of success with any form of projectile weapon when trapping is a force multiplier.

    Besides as you rightly say, something goes “bang” and you’ve advertised your presence for miles!

    Force multiplier?
    Take a wood with multiple deer trails and waterholes.
    You and your gun (or whatever).
    You can choose only one trail, one waterhole to watch.
    Me, I’ve snared the lot and gone home for a hot drink whilst you sit there shivering.

    Does it work every time? Nope.
    There again I may put a trap line in covering an acre and designed for whatever sign I see i.e. ground or bird.
    So I take too many. So what, being a transient I use what I get and move on.
    Am I worried about the next guy? Seriously?

    The only time I “manage” a trap line is when I’m locked down and that is usually in winter when movement is limited. Still cold and excess food is a partner because I’ll happily take what is on offer and freeze it, snow style.

    As for fishing? I’ll put out a long line with 10 -15 hooks and leave it overnight.
    Forget the spinning bit or sitting watching a float.
    In goes the long line and it’s back home for tea.
    I don’t bother about complex fish traps.
    Mainly they just advertise your presence in an area when a single peg by the water line attracts little attention.
    The added advantage is that the fish are usually still alive when you come and collect them.
    Saves a fortune on refrigeration. Take one, leave the rest to swim on the hooks.


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