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5 Years ago,I wrote about the shit Bloomberg was pulling,starting in Oregon.

He started out getting “common sense gun control” schemes on state ballots.

I did a post about that,and the consequences here

This crap was mentioned in other posts too,no one paid any attention to what was actually going on -thought it couldn’t happen in their state.

How’d that work out in Va?

The man and his fellow victim disarmament cult members now figure it’s cheaper,faster,and more effective for them to just buy their own state senators/congresscritters.

See the Commie takeover of Virginia politics as an example.

Politics is war.

The left has been entrenched in local,state,and fed level politics for decades.

You want to overturn the bullshit in Virginia?

Stop it from happening in your state?

You have to get involved in LOCAL and county level politics.

There’s no way to win at the state and national level without solid local backing.

A whole lot of people have been saying this for years in the intardnet blogoshpere.

Very,very few have taken the advice.

Bloomberg et-al took over Virginia politics because no one was involved -no one saw it coming.

He bought and paid for victim disarmament cult supporting political hacks to push his agenda -likely including governor Coonman.

Look up justice democrats to see other ways the left is getting their Commie hacks into political office.

Bloomberg is now running an anti gun stupid bowl ad , here spending millions to convince sportsball fans that he only wants “common sense gun control”

See the Virginia gun laws that his Commie hacks introduced for examples of his idea of “common sense gun control”

Pay attention to what this guy and his minions are doing.

Fight back -before it’s too late.

These hacks use the leftist controlled media to paint all gun owners as violent extremists,”white nationalists” Nazis, “white supremacists”,etc,etc ad nauseum.

They still use the “assault weapon” = “weapon of war” bullshit and non gun owners believe this nonsense.

The victim disarmament cult has been using this crap forever.

“The weapons menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons –anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun– can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.”

Josh Sugarman–1988

The leftist controlled media has repeatedly shown full auto weapons in videos reporting on A-R 15’s. They’ve done so for years.

It’s obvious to us that the media is lying,gaslighting the clueless – yet there is zero media pushback on this crap -because the left controls the media,and shuts down all pro gun points of view,with the exception of a very few mainstream media outlets.

The Lobby day rally has been going on for years – this year was only different due to gov Coonman and his fellow Commies promising the voters in the leftist infested cities/counties that voted them into power that they would enact “common sense gun control” ,then introducing draconian anti gun laws to make good on that promise.

Sure, there was a huge turnout for Lobby Day, exactly zero of gov Coonman/Bloomberg’s Commies paid any attention to the opposition to their agenda -nor will they as long as they are in power.

Sure ,there is a chance these draconian laws will be overturned in court – but gov Coonman WILL sign them into law.

See Herschel’s update on the Va laws here  (be sure to read the other posts on the topic )

See Aesop’s take on Virginia/Lobby day  here

Be sure to read his other posts on the subject.

The media coverage of Lobby Day was a partial win for gun rights supporters- as far as video and live reporting went.

The utter bullshit that was written afterwards, by the usual anti-gun media hacks was

the same old bullshit.

Rallys ain’t gonna do a damn thing.

Getting involved in local/county level politics will.

You have to get involved,talk to sheriffs,police chiefs,DA’s, city/town council county commissioners/councils.

Support those who deserve support.

Work to replace those who don’t.

How do you think the left got the political power they now have?

Rich fucks backed them for higher political office – but they started local.

Local pro gun lawyers have to get involved as well.

County DA’s who are anti gun need replaced.

Anti gun county sheriffs need replaced.

Local/county level politicians need to pressure state politicians to support pro gun rights legislation,and vote against ANY new gun control laws.

That is what has to be worked on as far as stopping this shit via the ballot box.

Support your state gun rights orgs before you support sellouts like the NRA.

(there are a few decent national level gun rights orgs -the NRA ain’t one of them.)

It might or might not be stoppable.

Which means everyone should be working on training,getting a group of like minded friends with varied needed skills together -locally.

Then train together.

Then connect with other local groups.

Meet in person -face to face -aka “Meatspace”.

Create a plan for just in case.

Figure out comms,food,medical care, needed supplies like ammo and spare parts,figure out storage and logistics.

You should have already taken care of all this -if not ,now is the time to start getting it figured out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The fascinating part about this argument is that it is true, and the founders themselves would be absolutely horrified by the level of restriction we have placed on arms. A common Progressive argument is that the right to bear arms only applied to an “organized militia.” This is made without the understanding that every able-bodied man of military age was considered, de facto, a part of the militia. Another common argument is that the right only applied to “muskets” or other period firearms. Semi-automatics, revolvers, repeaters, etc… were not envisioned, they say.

Read the rest @ Declination here

Divided by the Whitehouse

Posted: December 13, 2015 by silentpartner60 in anti-gun idiocy, ISIS, Leftists, Obama, second amendment

Excerpt From

 Abraham Lincoln’s Lyceum Address  January 27, 1838

“Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide.”

Lincoln understood that a house divided could not stand. “If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher.”

For those of us that firmly believe in the second amendment, we are being bamboozled.  But even worse off, the gun haters who are buying into the misdirection and divisive tactics of the Whitehouse administration and yes, our president.

From the very first post California islamic terrorist attack press conference, Barack Hussein Obama began shifting the blame to the lack of gun control laws and the left wingers bit into it in a big way.  Think about this, he wouldn’t even say there was potential terrorism here, but he would say this tragedy proves the need for more gun control laws. Blame the guns, not the criminals.

This has been expanded upon in every subsequent press conference by the Whitehouse and further expanded upon by the left and liberal biased media and every liberal with access to social media.  In rebuttal, the pro-gun nation has responded in kind trying to defend their position.  It’s become a reinvigorated national debate.  Just spend a few hours on Facebook and look at the inordinate amount of space devoted to these two sides going after each other.  It’s epidemic!  We’re being distracted.

This is just what the Whitehouse intended and we fell into their trap.  We’re are no longer focused on, and united by, a common threat (Islamic Terrorism) we’re divided by our passions over an issue that is distracting us from the reality of crime and terror.

Now is the time for us to be united, liberal and conservative, and this divisive Whitehouse has managed to put a wedge between us on this issue like so many other issues under the current regime’s watch.  At the very time in which we should be united against a common enemy……..we’re divided.

Why is the Whitehouse and the president trying to build division amongst us?

It’s a diversionary tactic and we’re all buying into it.  Barack Hussein Obama does not want to deal with the problem of the Islamic State (ISIS) or domestic Islamic terrorism.  We can speculate on his motives all day long, but why?  It really doesn’t matter what his motives are because he’s not going to do anything about these issues anyway.  He wants to kick the can down the road and leave this mess to a Republican administration which is certain to be elected next year.  Then when the new administration gets into a ground war in the middle east, he will not have been a part of it.  This pussy gets to keep his skirt clean and blame it on the Republicans?  So while we’re spending our time debating gun control, we’ve taken our eyes of the immediate threat and are not pursuing or insisting on actions and solutions to Islamic Terrorism both domestic and abroad.

So, it’s our responsibility to get the train back on the tracks.  The gun haters are perfectly content to blame the guns.  We, as supporters of the second amendment need to focus our energy on what’s important, being safe from Islamic terrorism and crime.  We need to do a better job of directing the national consensus back to this goal.

How do we do start to do that? Stop wasting your time arguing with liberal idiots about gun control and get the focus back on the real issue.  My friend Don always says”  Never argue with an idiot.  Because, sooner or later, to get them to understand you, you’re going to have to lower yourself to their level.”

How to talk to a Liberal?

So the next time you’re confronted with,

“We need gun control because you’re more likely to be killed by a gun in a crime, than by a terrorist.”

Your answer should be, “you’re right, I agree.  I agree that today I’m more likely to be killed by a criminal than a terrorist.  But where I come from, a terrorist is a criminal, whether they use a gun, a knife, a bomb or an airplane.”

Now, follow up with a question, “What do you think we should do about terrorism in light of the fact that they’ll use any means necessary to kill people?”

Don’t get into the debate with them over gun control, you’re not going to waste your time with that.  You’ve engaged them now, told them they were right or so they think and even asked them for advise on the real problem.  Bingo, you’ve done it.  You’ve got them past the issue of gun control and moved them in a direction of thinking about the real threat terrorism.

“There are more guns in this country than people, we don’t need all these guns and should get rid of them.”

Your answer, “ You’re right, we do have more guns than people, and with what’s going on with ISIS, in France and now here, gun sales for personal protection are on the rise.”  “People are really concerned over their personal safety,”  “What do you think they should do?”

Again you’ve agreed with them on some level, you’ve outlined a threat of which they have obviously ignored, and asked question that they probably haven’t thought about.  You see, their focus is the guns and the control, they’re not thinking about the real and actual threats.  This is exactly what the Whitehouse and liberals want………  Instead of wasting your time arguing about Guns and Gun Control, you’ve now got them pondering your questions and this will force them to consider the real problem.  It will redirect their focus where it belongs.

“All the NRA cares about is getting money by lobbying for Gun Manufacturers.”

You’re reply, “yes your right, they are the biggest gun lobby and aside from their membership fees, they probably get a lot of money from gun manufacturers.”  “They must spend a lot of money on protecting their clients and the second amendment.”  

“You know, I looked at their website, they do a lot of gun safety training and even have advise for people who aren’t gun owners, like, how to teach your children about gun safety, even if you don’t own a gun.”  “With all of the gun owners out there, I bet our kids have gone into homes with guns in them and we didn’t even know it.”  

“It’s probably a good ideal to teach our children about gun safety, have you ever talked to your kids about what to do if they ever see a gun in someones house?” 

You’ve agreed with them, educated them and once again asked them a question that might get them thinking about the importance of gun safety.  If they have children, I bet they go online and at least give it a look.

In these three examples, you can see that it’s more important that we get people motivated to deal with the most pressing issues. You’re not going to change someones mind on gun control in a conversation at a party or interacting on social media, so don’t waste your time.  Instead, use that time to help get them focused and enlighten them on the issues that matter.

Whether Barack Hussein Obama and his administration are kicking the can down the road for the next president or want to end American as we know it, we can’t become an unwitting partner.  It’s clear that they want to use gun control as a diversion and the left is willing to go along.  Let’s not fall into this trap and use this opportunity to guide the misguided.

“I know you can fight but, it’s our wits that make us men”  Words of wisdom from Malcolm Wallace to his son William (Braveheart).

Grand Rapids, Mich. – In a stunning violation of 2nd Amendment rights, the U.S. District Court of Western Michigan ruled police have the legal authority to detain individuals that choose to exercise their constitutional right to open carry a firearm. Open Carry is also specifically allowed under Michigan law.

The ruling means that people in Michigan who choose to exercise this constitutional right are now subject to being stopped by law enforcement for engaging in a completely lawful activity.

Officers detained Johann Deffert in early 2013. He was walking down the sidewalk with a holstered FNP-45 pistol, after receiving a 9-1-1 call from a woman who spotted Deffert with the open carried, but holstered, handgun on his person.

The dispatcher initially informed the caller that Michigan is an open carry state. However, the woman subsequently explained that she found Deffert’s presence alarming, due in part to his wearing of camouflage, although she admitted that he wasn’t threatening anyone. Somehow the dispatcher made the decision that someone engaging in a completely legal activity, as earlier in the call noted by the dispatcher, should now be inspected by police, due to caller saying they found wearing camo disturbing.

The absurdity in logic; that someone wearing camo takes the situation from being a completely legal situation not to be interfered with, and raises it to a level of needing police assistance, shows the extreme arbitrary nature of the entire situation.

The incident was captured on responding officer Moe Williams’ dash cam, and lasted 14 minutes. Williams had indicated he believed that perhaps Deffert was suffering from some type of mental illness, as he seemed to be “talking to nobody” when the officer arrived on scene. Upon further investigation, Deffert was revealed to have been happily singing the song “Hakuna Matata” from the Disney movie “The Lion King” while strolling down the sidewalk.

The video shows the officer command Deffert to lay face down on the ground upon arrival on the scene. Deffert was treated as if he were a criminal that needed to prove he was not doing anything wrong, as the officer detained him while running a mental and criminal background check. Deffert was polite and respectful throughout the encounter, but strongly asserted his rights regarding open carry laws in the state of Michigan.

Remember, all of this transpired despite Deffert’s total compliance with Michigan law, in respect to open carry of a firearm. Eventually, Deffert was released, as he had violated no laws, done nothing wrong, and there was no legitimate reason to hold him. Shortly after the incident, in what seemed like a vindication for Deffert at the time, Grand Rapids Police Sgt. Steve LaBreque recommended to Moe’s commanding officer, that Moe “would benefit from some additional training in handling ‘open carry’ issues.”

Several months later Deffert filed a federal lawsuit alleging his constitutional rights were violated and that he was assaulted and falsely imprisoned. The legality of open carry in the Michigan was never in question, only if law enforcement had the authority to detain an individual simply because they were open carrying a firearm, according to court records.

In the most convoluted of logic, U.S. District Judge Janet Neff claimed that officers do have such authority. Neff wrote that the officers were “justified in following up on the 9-1-1 call and using swift action to determine whether [Deffert’s] behavior gave rise to a need to protect or preserve life … in the neighborhood.”

When a call to 9-1-1 is made in regard to a completely legal activity, the police should not even be dispatched. If in fact the police needed to “determine whether [Deffert’s] behavior gave rise to a need to protect or preserve life … in the neighborhood,” they need not impeded a citizen from going about their legitimate and legal business,” as Neff asserts, but rather could passively watch from a distance to determine if there is any reasonable suspicion of criminal activity afoot, and if so act accordingly.

The most glaring problem with Neff’s logic, is that there is no reason for police to ever assess someones behavior who is simply engaging in constitutionally protected and lawful activity, regardless if another citizens takes issue with the activity. If the activity fails to rise to the level of criminality, then police have no business getting investigating or getting involved. The police, as public servants, aren’t paid to investigate non-crimes.

The idea that someone needs to prove their innocence for engaging in a constitutionally protected activity is contrary to everything America teaches its children to believe about liberty and freedom.

The case will most likely be appealed to the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit. The National Rifle Association and others have offered to assist in the appeal.

It will be interesting to see what open carry advocates across the nation, and specifically those in Texas, a hotbed of open carry activism, think about this ruling; and how they would respond if this were to become the standard of law in their state.

Sound off in the comments!

Be sure to share this critical information with all your liberty loving friends!

Read the decision below.

Johann Deffert court documents