We’re terrifying kids in the name of protecting them

Posted: December 12, 2014 by gamegetterII in Uncategorized

Last month, a principal in Winter Haven, Fla., was suspended for allowing police to stage an unannounced “school shooting drill” in his school’s classrooms:

It took frightened teachers, students and parents all by surprise last week when armed officers swept through classrooms with guns drawn during the drill at Jewett Middle Academy Magnet School in Winter Haven.

Now, there’s fallout. Principal Jacquelyn Moore has been suspended and a school resource officer has been reassigned to road patrol. It sparked an internal investigation and changes to district policy.

Superintendent Kathryn Leroy is apologizing to students and parents for the scare at the school and claiming the principal used bad judgement, when allowing officers to use guns during the drill. Leroy promises it will never happen again.

Parents say it better not. “I have never requested an active shooter drill be performed with students present and officers having weapons in their hands,” says Leroy.

Leroy told school board members even she didn’t know that a school resource officer would draw his loaded pistol, and a patrol officer would be armed with an AR-15 during the unannounced lockdown drill at Jewett Academy.

It had students ducking for cover as if an active shooter was in the building. Parents were never notified.

That no one involved even considered the unnecessary terror the drill would inflict on students demonstrates just how ridiculous the panic over these shootings has become. And it isn’t just in Winter Haven. Consider this utter insanity in Troy, Mo.:

In a cramped, carpeted amphitheater in the basement of Troy Buchanan High School, 69 students are waiting to die.

“You’ll know when it pops off,” says Robert Bowen, the school’s campus police officer. “If you get engaged with one of the shooters, you’ll know it.”

“When you get shot, you need to close your fingers and keep ‘em in,” adds Tammy Kozinski, the drama teacher. “When the bad guy and the police come through, they’ll step all over you, and who will be saying they’re sorry?”

“Nobody!” the students cry in unison.

This isn’t a bizarre, premeditated mass murder or some twisted sacrifice led by a student cult. These are the 20 minutes preceding an active shooter drill, the 13th one Missouri’s Lincoln County school district has staged in the past year.

All but 69 students have gone home for the day on early dismissal. These volunteer victims, mostly culled from the school’s drama class, are outfitted in fake-bloody bullet wounds, still wet and dripping down their foreheads, necks and chests. Bowen tells them what to expect: They’ll see “bad guys with AR-15s” shooting blanks during a simulated “passing period”—the moments when one class ends and the other begins. PVC pipes will be dropped on the floor to approximate IEDs. Crystal Lanham, a baby-faced freshman with long, gently-crimped brown hair, receives the dubious honor of being chosen as one of the gunmen’s hostages. She’s thrilled.

“I just really wanna get shot,” she jokes. “Is that weird?”

Yes, it is. And it isn’t healthy. It’s twisted and obsessive. I mean, 13 times in one year? The odds of your average school seeing even one on-campus homicide is one in several thousand — never mind an actual mass shooting. Yet these drills are getting more common. In one Chicago school, officials fired blanks in the hallways, apparently to “make students and teachers familiar with the sound of gunfire.” When the parent of a third-grader complained about the intensity of an unannounced shooter drill in Cahokia, Ill., last year, the principal responded: “I’d much rather your children be a little bit scared and alive.” In another unannounced drill at a special-needs school in Harlem, a panicked faculty member called police. Browse the media write-ups of these stories and you’ll see children who volunteered as “victims” posing as corpses, complete with bullet holes in their heads and shirts soaked with blood. We’ve lost our minds.

In September, the Wall Street Journal reported on a rash of lawsuits from terrified victims of mass-shooter drills across the country, not just at schools but also at businesses and nursing homes. Some were announced, others were not. The paper reported that six states require such drills. At least four of those (Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Missouri) have lax concealed-carry laws. What happens when someone who wasn’t in on the planning decides to stop one of these fake shooters?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/12/11/were-terrifying-kids-in-the-name-of-protecting-them/

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/should-all-convicted-felons-be-banned-from-having-guns-missouri/article_bf54b17a-896c-554d-8848-26bd1c26245c.html?mode=comments

There’s a couple good points raised in the article-and in the comments.

My opinion is this-since once a person is released from prison and/or probation/parole-their “debt to society” is considered to have been paid,yet they are punished for life-often for non-violent crimes.

There’s also a huge problem with all the things the states and feds now consider a felony.

There’s a book called “Three Felonies a Day”-it’s an eye opener.

There’s the fact that .gov inc. via the police and courts-especially the prosecutors-can charge,indict,and convict anyone they choose to of a felony,at any time they choose to.

There are far,far too many “crimes” that are classed as felonies.

There are even more that are classed as “crimes of violence” yet there was zero violence involved in the crime. That’s a huge problem in and of itself.

There is nothing in the bill of rights that says the states and feds can start making up new categories of crimes,and start labeling a lot of really,really ridiculous shit as a felony.

In some states,if you raise your voice during an argument with your wife-and your neighbors call the cops-you can be charged-and convicted of “domestic violence”. (ask me how I know)

Do it a second time-and it’s a felony.

There are hundreds of “crimes” that are classed as “crimes of violence” in which there is no violence-no one was harmed,no one was assaulted-yet they are considered to be “violent felonies”.

It was only in fairly recent times that a lifelong ban on gun ownership was created if you had a felony conviction-and there was less gun crime back then-back when a guy-or lady was released from prison,and their “debt to society” was considered to have been paid.

Heck,in the old days,when a guy was released from prison-he was given a $20.00 gold piece,a horse with saddle and tack,and a revolver with holster.

With all the bullshit that is classed as a felony these days-we need to go back to doing what was done in the past-once your prison term,or probation/parole is completed-you are a free man-or woman,and you get to vote,serve on juries,and keep and bear arms…

Enough of this bullshit where a person is punished for life for what in most cases was a mistake.

People do dumb shit when they are young-they didn’t used to be charged with a felony,convicted,and sent to prison for it-the sheriff,or city cop would lock them up for a few days,or let them sleep off a drunk-then they went on their way.

The punishment for the crime is the prison/jail sentence and/or parole/probation-that’s it.

Once a person serves their sentence-that should be it-end of story.

No more of this lifetime punishment-if a person is to be punished for life-then the sentence needs to fit the crime.

Only those who commit horrific,truly heinous crimes should lose their rights for life-and that would be because they are in prison for life.

All of these idiotic laws that take young kids and label them as felons are creating a whole class of people who are unemployable at any meaningful job for life.

Hell,you have to pass a background check to flip burgers at McD’s !!!!

No one with a felony conviction can ever work at a decent paying job-because they are labeled as a “felon” for life-this must stop.

There is absolutely zero value to society in labeling a person as a felon,making them pretty much a person reduced to performing some kind of menial labor for minimum wage for the rest of their life.

It’s not just about gun rights,it’s about an unfair and unjust “justice” system.

We,as a country,as a society,lock up more people than any other country in the world.

Who does this benefit? It sure as hell does not benefit society when you have millions of people who are labeled as felons walking around pissed off because they can not earn enough $$$ to support themselves,much less a family.

Incarcerating millions of people benefits .gov inc. it benefits those who own and/or operate jails and prisons-look no farther than Jeb Bush-he is part owner of private prisons-so you have politicians-a judge in Georgia who was caught sentencing people to jail for ridiculous shit just so the jail would be close to full,and he would make $$$ by locking people up.

Society does not benefit at all,not one bit from labeling millions of people as felons for life-there is simply no benefit,other than creating jobs for politicians friends that own jails and prisons.

Justice would be sentencing those who committed an actual crime of violence-as in rape,murder,armed robbery,arson,assault- during which a person is actually seriously hurt- to a long prison term.

The only people who should lose their gun rights are those who commit the crimes listed above-those are the people that if they are prevented from owning firearms would benefit society.

All those who are now labeled as felons for life do not deserve to lose their gun rights for crimes that are not related to guns.

All those who are now labeled as felons for life should have that label removed so that they can again get a decent job,be able to support themselves-and a family-and so they don’t end up as cheese eaters and part of the free shit army for life because they can not get a decent job.

They also deserve to be able to defend themselves and their families.

If .gov inc. makes everything a “felony”-it’s easier for .gov inc. to control people.

That’s the path we are on…

.gov inc. keeps making more and more things a “felony” as they do this-more and more people lose some of their rights,fewer and fewer people will have rights.

It’s long past time to put and end to the “felon” label for life,and reserve that label for those who have committed serious,horrific,heinous crimes-instead of the guy who yelled at his wife a few times,and the second time the cops came-he was charged and convicted of ‘domestic violence” and he never lifted a finger in anger at his wife.

Don’t think that one’s possible? Guess again-happens every day to those who don’t have a few thousand dollars laying around to pay a lawyer.

Think about it-and tell me how it is a benefit to society to label people as a “felon”,and to keep them labeled as a “felon” even AFTER they have served the sentence imposed by the court?

Read!

Learn!

Train!

Do More PT!

Do some extra PT because it’s the holidays and you scarfed down  12 # of turkey,dressing and mashed taters on turkey day,and laid around on the couch watching football-and you will do the same on Christmas,new years,and pound a bunch of extra beers for the rest of the month of Dec.

Despite a big win in November, Republicans are ceding to the wishes of Barack Obama while alienating their conservative base, political commentator James Simpson noted in a Thursday American Thinker analysis of the 2015 spending bill being negotiated at this writing. Among the dangers he lists include a provision that will allow for changes after the vote, along with continued funding for executive amnesty and Obamacare, with a special notation that “Provisions supporting gun rights were removed.”

“[B]etween 40 and 50 Republican representatives have already jumped ship and are opposing the Republican leadership,” Gun Owners of America told members in a Tuesday alert describing rank and file push-back against what is being widely perceived as a GOP betrayal and sell-out. “This means that at least a fifth — and maybe more — of [House Minority Leader Nancy] Pelosi’s minions will have to be ordered to support [House Speaker John] Boehner for it to pass. And Pelosi has made it clear to the press that the bill will have to be altered to be satisfactory to her in order for her to provide those votes.

One of the changes the GOP could insist on now would be to restore funding closed off through an appropriations maneuver by anti-gun New York Democrat Chuck Schumer for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives “to investigate or act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities submitted by individuals.” Unless and until that is done, “[T]housands upon thousands of Americans who are disqualified from owning firearms because of non-violent federal felonies have no way to get their gun rights back,” GOA noted in January.

The prohibition on relief funding remains in the ATF expense section of the bill. The section beginning on page 139 notes “That none of the funds appropriated herein shall be available to investigate or act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities under 23 section 925(c) of title 18, United States Code.”

At this writing, as things are unfolding in real time, it appears a revolt has almost killed the bill, and floor votes may not be enough to allow it to pass, particularly if opposing Democrats hold fast to their reasons for objection. If that happens, Matthew Boyle of Breitbart notes, “congressional leadership is planning to change tack and move forward with a three-month stopgap spending bill, or a clean Continuing Resolution.”

If that happens, GOA will once again have proven itself as a uniquely effective “no-compromise” national leader in the gun rights advocacy community. Whether that will be widely recognized by even more gun owners than currently count themselves among its supporters, and repaid in kind with a commensurate merited increase in membership support, remains to be seen.

http://www.examiner.com/article/republicans-leaving-anti-rights-restoration-provision-appropriations-bill?CID=examiner_alerts_article

Contact Governor Kasich in Support of this Comprehensive Gun Reform Bill!

Yesterday, the Ohio House of Representatives voted to concur on House Bill 234 by a 69 to 16 vote after it passed in the state Senate by a 24 to 6 vote on Tuesday.  HB 234 has been sent to Governor John Kasich (R) for his consideration.

Originally, HB 234, sponsored by state Representative Cheryl Grossman (R-23), would revise state law to allow for the use of a firearm sound suppressor while hunting in the Buckeye State.  Hunting with suppressed firearms provides numerous benefits to sportsmen, including the elimination of noise complaints, reduction of recoil, increased accuracy and reduction of muzzle report to hearing-safe levels.

Tuesday, some additional pro-gun measures were amended into HB 234, including allowing the purchase and sale of shotguns and rifles in non-contiguous states, reforming the concealed carry process by reducing the number of training hours required from 12 hours to 8 hours and requiring a chief law enforcement officer (CLEO) to sign off on an application to transfer an item regulated by the National Firearms Act.

The NRA thanks you for contacting your state legislators to help finally pass this comprehensive pro-gun legislation.  Please now contact Governor Kasich and politely ask him to sign HB 234 into law.

Governor John Kasich
(614) 466-3555
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http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/12/ohio-major-pro-gun-reform-legislation-passes-and-sent-to-governor.aspx?s=&st=&ps=

A conviction being contested in Florida’s Fourth District Court of Appeal will challenge the state’s recognition of the meaning of the right to bear arms, NBC’s WPT5 in West Palm Beach reported Monday. Unknown to him at the time of his arrest in 2012, concealed carry permit holder Dale Lee Norman’s gun was exposed to view resulting in his conviction for open carrying, a decision now being challenged on Second Amendment grounds.

Dale Lee Norman is arrested by Fort Pierce, Fla. police for open carrying a gun.

Screenshot from Fort Pierce, Fla. Police dashcam video.

Florida law does not provide for open carry of handguns except in limited cases, such as while hunting, camping and fishing. At the heart of the legal issue is prior precedent declaring concealed carry a privilege, Norman’s attorney Eric Friday, who is also lead counsel for the statewide grassroots gun rights group Florida Carry, maintained. With open carry prohibited, there is no legally-recognized right to bear arms, a situation that directly contradicts the U.S. and Florida constitutions.

Among those opposing Norman’s challenge is Artie Williams of Mothers Against Murderers, who says the practice “gives the carrier an intimidation factor.” As prohibited persons may not possess a gun without being in violation of the law, just who lawful gun owners might be intimidating, aside from those intent on victimizing others, is not clear.

The anti-gun group’s website notes it was founded “in memory of … Torrey Donnell Manuel, who lost his life due to a senseless act of violence.” Further explanations on the circumstances of that act are not provided, nor is any further clarifying information apparent from search engine results. Co-founder Angela Williams maintains “she also lost 13 additional family members to gun violence in Palm Beach County, Florida.”

That there may be solutions to prevent similar losses that don’t involve the state depriving law-abiding gun owners of their rights is left unstated. “Gun violence,” without further examination of individual circumstances, is a broad term, and identifying the factors contributing to the cited family losses might shed light on superior alternatives.

For its part, Florida Carry continues to support and promote Norman in his appeal. The group has established a Norman v. State resource page to give background on the case, including providing access to many of the filings, as well as an interesting side trip of sorts explaining how “the Florida Attorney General’s Office filed an extraordinary motion with the Florida Supreme Court attempting to prohibit the Fourth District Court of Appeals from hearing the case.” The page also links to online donation and membership forms so that gun owners can support the group’s legal, legislative, educational and outreach efforts, allowing Florida Carry to continue its work and to expand its influence.

http://www.examiner.com/article/florida-open-carry-case-tests-recognition-of-bearing-arms?CID=examiner_alerts_article

CCDL Rally

The U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday will hear oral arguments in the case of Shew vs. Malloy, a legal challenge to the key provisions of Connecticut’s post-Newtown gun control legislation.
After Legislative Defeat, Gun Owners Aim For Election Successes
JENNY WILSON, jenwilson@courant.com

The lawsuit, filed by a coalition of state gun owners, firearms dealers, and gun rights groups, seeks to overturn the assault weapons ban and the 10-round ammunition magazine limit that were enacted in 2013 as part of the legislature’s response to the December 2012 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Gunman Adam Lanza killed 20 first-graders and six educators using a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle and high capacity ammunition magazines, both of which are illegal under the new law.

The law, which was described at the time of passage as the “toughest in the nation,” was upheld in federal court in Connecticut last January. U.S. District Judge Alfred V. Covello wrote in the decision that “while the act burdens the plaintiffs’ Second Amendment rights, it is substantially related to the important governmental interest of public safety and crime control.”

The plaintiffs immediately appealed the decision. They argue in their complaint that the law is unconstitutionally vague, discriminatory, and infringes upon Second Amendment rights.

Assault weapons and high-capacity magazines are commonly used in both shooting sports and self-defense, and thus subject to Second Amendment protection, the plaintiffs argue.

In a brief filed with the appeals court, the state countered that the law only bans “a small subset of firearms and large-capacity magazines that … are disproportionately selected by criminals for use in gun crime.”

The law’s broadened definition of an assault weapon and new limit on magazine size, the state argues, is related to “an important governmental interest in ending gun violence and death.”

The state argued that the law “leaves more than one thousand alternative firearms and magazines for law-abiding citizens to acquire and possess for self-defense.” Weapons like the AR-15, they argued, “have no utility for legitimate self-defense and are not actually used for such purposes in practice.”

The plaintiffs argue that the law is discriminatory because off-duty police and military personnel are exempt from the assault weapons ban and high-capacity ammunition magazine limit.

The definition of an assault weapon under the act is so vague that it leaves gun owners “without knowledge of what is prohibited,” plaintiffs argue.

Also on Tuesday, the Second Circuit will hear oral arguments in a separate challenge to the sweeping gun control package passed in New York in response to the Newtown massacre.

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-gun-lawsuit-advance-20141208-story.html

Pew Poll: Support for Gun Rights Exceeds Gun Control

Posted: December 11, 2014 by gamegetterII in gun rights
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In a Pew Research poll released Wednesday, 52 percent are in support of the protection of gun rights and 46 percent support gun control. This is the first time in two decades that Pew has found more support for gun rights than gun control.

Backing for gun rights has been on the rise since January 2013, when it had 45 percent supporting protections. During that time period, support for gun control also fell from 51 percent to its current standing.

Read More: Politico.com

The U.S. Navy announced Wednesday that a new laser weapon deployed into Persian Gulf earlier this year performed seamlessly during testing that wrapped up in November, and declared the weapon a success.

Deployed for the first time aboard the U.S.S. Ponce in September, the Office of Naval Research released a video Wednesday of the LaWS (laser weapon system) taking out two test targets.

*** I though LAWS was for LAWS anti-tank shoulder fired weapon?***

“Laser weapons are powerful, affordable and will play a vital role in the future of naval combat operations,” Rear Adm. Matthew L. Klunder, chief of naval research, said in a statement Wednesday. “We ran this particular weapon, a prototype, through some extremely tough paces, and it locked on and destroyed the targets we designated with near-instantaneous lethality.”

The laser performed flawlessly through a range of adverse weather conditions and took out moving targets both at sea and in the air, including small boats and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). Operated via a “video-game like controller,” the system is designed to go from non-lethal to lethal output to stun or destroy “asymmetrical threats” like small ships and UAVs.

At less than a dollar per shot, the cost-efficient 30-kilowatt weapon is the first of larger 100 and 150-kilowatt weapons to be deployed aboard later ships.

“Lives matter, regardless of race and regardless of who is initiating unwarranted violence. Beating a white guy to death with hammers because of “Burn this bitch down!” is as repellant and evil as three white psychos dragging a black guy to death because of “Aryan pride.” If you find yourself rooting for one set of perps in either case above, you are a fuckhead.”

http://www.ivymikecafe.com/2014/12/10/ferguson-return-of-the-assholes/#comment-10298