Posts Tagged ‘Gun Control’

Here come the anti-gun zealots-“if they can ban guns why can’t we”

“It’s not just the gunners upset at the sudden ban on the open carrying of firearms at the state Capitol. Some cities are saying: “Hey, why can’t we do that, too?”

“When lawmakers unexpectedly banned the open carrying of guns in parts of the state Capitol recently, some gun owners were upset. But they weren’t the only ones.

Gun-control advocates were also irked. Though for an entirely different reason.

“It’s ironic, isn’t it?” said Seattle City Councilman Bruce Harrell. “We can’t as a city do what the state just did. Why? Because they won’t let us.”

When about 20 protesters went into the House viewing gallery in Olympia last month and waved around their rifles and pistols, our typically pro-gun Legislature suddenly got very uncomfortable. Both the House and Senate abruptly banned the open display of firearms in their chambers and hearing rooms (concealed carry with a permit is still OK).

“I don’t want the people who are on the floor being fearful of doing their jobs,” said Lt. Gov. Brad Owen, who runs the Senate.

That seems like kind of a no-brainer. Citizens shouldn’t be allowed to stand over elected officials with guns anymore than your boss should stand over you with one, while you work. Most state capitols don’t allow any guns inside, unless carried by law enforcement.

But because the Legislature did this by private rule, it applies only to them. Anyone is still free to sling a semi-automatic rifle over his or her shoulder and head on into a meeting of the local city council, planning commission or library board.

“What the Legislature did is the height of hypocrisy,” says Scott Missall, a lawyer for Short, Cressman and Burgess in Seattle, who works as a contract city attorney for some small cities around the region. “If it’s so obvious that guns have no place in the House or Senate, how is it any less obvious in our local city and county council meetings?”

It’s not a purely symbolic issue. In 2013, a dozen citizens armed up for some meetings of the Oak Harbor City Council, standing in the back with M1 rifles and the like while lawyers told the council it had no authority to do anything about it. State legislators can be “fearful of doing their jobs.” The rest of you just have to man up.

Seattle City Hall especially is face-palming over this. In 2008, then-Mayor Greg Nickels barred guns from the city’s public buildings and parks.

That order also covered concealed guns, so it admittedly went farther than the recent Capitol ban. But when it was thrown out by the courts, the judges said the reason was that only the Legislature can give the city the power to pass a gun restriction, which it has not done.

Harrell tried to be diplomatic about how lawmakers now are doing for themselves what they won’t let Seattle do. Gaining the “ability to regulate firearms in public places” is listed as the city’s No. 1 legislative priority this year.”

Read the rest of the anti-gun drivel  @

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2025668806_westneat11xml.html

MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — Hundreds of Vermonters on Tuesday night debated proposed legislation that would expand background checks for gun buyers and impose other new firearms restrictions.

At a packed Statehouse, the Senate Judiciary and Health and Welfare Committee heard testimony from supporters and opponents of the legislation, though opponents in the hall and nearby rooms where video was piped in easily outnumbered supporters.

Several opponents pointed to Vermont’s rank in FBI statistics as the safest state in the country. They argued that Senate Bill 31 isn’t needed.

“If I’m being assaulted on a city street, I’d rather have a .38 on me than a copy of S. 31,” said Erika Eldred.

Read the rest @

http://news.yahoo.com/liberal-gun-loving-vermont-restrictions-face-fight-071329945.html

 I’ve stated multiple times that Bloomberg and his minions,especially with Ms. Watts’ ad exec experience leading the Bloomberg funded “grassroots effort” via Mom’s Demand Action, Everytown for Gun Safety,and whatever other lobbying groups he has registered in an attempt to not draw attention to any of his known groups,or himself,are going to just check of their list state by state,and get similar BS enacted in all of them-unless gun owners start fighting back.

Via David Codrea…

A public hearing on proposed gun legislation will be held Tuesday by the Senate Committees on Health & Welfare and Judiciary Tuesday in the House Chamber of the Vermont Statehouse, Vermont PBS announced. The hearings will be broadcast live beginning at 5:30 p.m.

Vermont Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs opposes legislation it calls "unnecessary." and

© 2015 Vermont Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs, Inc. All rights reserved. Used with permission.

“Members of the public interested in testifying regarding the above bill may sign up 30 minutes prior to the hearing outside the House Chamber,” PBS reported. “Each person will have two minutes to testify and the hearing will adjourn at 8:00 p.m. Due to our time frame, please note everyone may not be able to testify.”

On this evening’s agenda will be S.31, “An act relating to possession and transfer of firearms,” introduced by Democrat Senators John F. Campbell, Philip Baruth, and Claire Ayer. The bill purports to prohibit persons convicted of violent crimes from possessing firearms, to require background checks with specified government and law enforcement exemptions, and to mandate court administrators to report specified updates to the Brady Law-established National Criminal Background Instant Check System.

New edicts are “strenuously opposed by the Vermont Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs. The gun rights and shooting sports-promoting group characterized the bill as “a solution in search of a problem” in its Statement Opposing S.31.

“[T]his bill is unnecessary gun control legislation,” VTFSC declared. “[I]t was introduced for a Vermont gun control organization, with this bill inflicting needless expense and damage to the rights of good citizens.

“The Federation has long opposed laws which needlessly restrict the responsible use and ownership of firearms by peaceful citizens,” VTFSC explained. “Such gun control laws do not deter crime and only serve to slander the good character of the vast majority of firearm owners, the vast majority of which are responsible citizens.”

The gun rights group has posted an announcement on its blog presenting what it calls “facts [that] speak for themselves.” In it, supporters are urged to attend the session in person, and to “Wear orange, be polite and respectful but let us fill the House chamber.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/vermont-gun-control-push-draws-organized-opposition?CID=examiner_alerts_article

“Gun Owners Prepare for Arrest at WA State Capitol,” Kit Lange of The Patrick Henry Society reported Monday. “Liberty activists and gun owners organized by Liberty for All and The Patriots Stand are converging at the WA State Capitol in Olympia on Saturday at a rally meant to protest and violate new rules imposed by the legislature banning open carry in public viewing galleries.”

Lange was referring to the Our Capitol Our Rights response to politicians closing off open carry of firearms in the legislature. Armed activists will be going there this weekend to test the new rule by disobeying it.

http://www.examiner.com/article/saturday-rally-to-illustrate-new-paradigm-gun-rights-advocacy?CID=examiner_alerts_article

Imagine that-Bloomberg’s minions lying right before they attempt to get anti-gun legislation introduced and passed.

Then there’s this..In Vermont, an online petition asking Attorney General William Sorrell to investigate the tactics used by Everytown for Gun Safety has garnered more than 500 signatures in five days.  Only 500 signatures???!!!!  Bloomberg and his millionaire and billionaire pals,along with his minions which help introduce this bullshit on state’s ballots and run his anti-gun front groups Everytown and Moms are going to go state by state and get the same shit enacted as they did in Washington state if gun owners don’t get off their asses and fight this bullshit.

MOUNT HOLLY — A firearms dealer accused by a gun safety group of not conducting background checks is mulling a lawsuit for defamation of character.

Bobby Richards is the owner and operator of Crossfire Arms, an online firearms business based in Mount Holly, about 15 miles southeast of Rutland. His business was identified in a recent report by the advocacy group Everytown for Gun Safety — which has since retracted some of its claims — as an unlicensed dealer that sells guns to criminals.

That is not the case, according to Richards and his attorney, Rachel Baird.

“In the blatantly false and malicious report distributed to a worldwide audience, Everytown misappropriated Crossfire Arms’ logo and defamed its owner Bobby Richards and Crossfire Arms by characterizing both as vehicles for the unlicensed sale of firearms to felons, fugitives from justice, domestic violence abusers and other unspecified criminals,” reads a statement released by Crossfire Arms.

According to Baird, Richards has a federal firearms license and conducts the background checks required under federal law.

“Bobby and I are exploring his claims that will focus primarily on the torts of slander and defamation, including placing Bobby and Crossfire Arms in a false light,” Baird said.

On its website, Crossfire Arms states, “Crossfire Arms, LLC is a licensed FFL dealer. In accordance with federal and state laws, we cannot ship a firearm directly to an individual or to a location that does not hold an FFL (Federal Firearms License).”

“Firearms will only be shipped to another licensed gun dealer within the United States — this can be your local gun shop, pawn shop, sporting goods store, etc,” the website states. “The receiving gun dealer then handles your background check and the transfer of the firearm to you.”

The report from Everytown for Gun Safety comes as state lawmakers consider a bill to tighten the laws surrounding criminal background checks.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/article/20150203/NEWS03/702039956

“It also highlights the way the “education system” is also an indoctrination system, imparting beliefs and conditioned reactions to produce disapproval and fear of armed citizens.”

“A Kermit [Texas] parent said his fourth-grade student was suspended Friday for allegedly making a terroristic threat,” the Odessa American reported Friday. After seeing “The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies,” nine-year-old Aiden Steward allegedly brought a ring to school and told a classmate it was magic and could make him disappear.

The boy’s father, Jason Steward, said Kermit Elementary School Principal Roxanne Greer informed him “threats to another child’s safety would not be tolerated — whether magical or not.” For her part, Greer declined to comment, citing confidentiality requirements.

The incident does illustrate the seeming paradox of schools that have programs against bullies essentially assuming that role. It also highlights the way the “education system” is also an indoctrination system, imparting beliefs and conditioned reactions to produce disapproval and fear of armed citizens. As this column has shown before, things were not always that way, and many of us remember a much different time.

The ultimate problem is that schools, via illusory “gun free zones,” provide those intent on making a name for themselves through acts of unspeakable evil a practical guarantee they will get what they most desire: success. Until that paradigm changes, expect ever more ridiculous examples of “zero tolerance” insanity to continue to make the news.

http://www.examiner.com/article/hobbit-ring-school-suspension-merits-closer-look?CID=examiner_alerts_article

On Saturday at 2:00 p.m., in Room 307 of the State Capitol, the House Regulatory & Public Affairs Committee will hold a public hearing on NRA-opposed House Bill 44, sponsored by anti-gun state Representative Miguel Garcia (D-ABQ).  HB 44 criminalizes non-dealer firearm transfers at gun shows, which would lead to the end of these events as we know them.  Misguided gun control advocates will be in Santa Fe to support this deeply flawed measure, so please attend this hearing to show your opposition.

HB 44 is just the first step toward criminalizing ALL private transfers of firearms; in fact, the first version of this bill from the 2013 session did just that.  No background check legislation will ever be “universal” since criminals simply ignore the law.

Why You Should Oppose HB 44

It’s an ineffective crime control proposal.  In April of 2013, PoliceOne conducted a national survey of 15,000 active and retired law enforcement officers of all ranks and department sizes on the topics of gun & crime control.  Nearly 80 percent said that a prohibition on private non-dealer transfers of firearms between individuals would not reduce violent crime.

Current laws are not being enforced.  According to a 2012 report to the U.S. Department of Justice, more than 72,000 people were turned down on a gun purchase in 2010 because they didn’t clear a background check.  Only 44 of those cases – or just .06 percent – were prosecuted.  A 2013 study by Syracuse University showed that gun prosecutions had hit a decade low, down 40 percent from 2004.  Existing laws are not even being enforced and proponents are calling for expanding background checks to cover private firearms transactions.

Gun shows aren’t a source of crime guns.  A U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics survey of state prison inmates who had used or possessed firearms in the course of committing their crimes found that 79 percent acquired their firearms from “street/illegal sources” or “friends and family.”  This includes theft of firearms, black market purchases of stolen firearms and straw purchases.  Only 1.7 percent obtained a firearm at a gun show.

It may lead to gun registration. Most importantly, because a January 2013 internal U.S. Department of Justice memorandum summarizing so-called “gun violence” prevention strategies stated that the effectiveness of “universal background checks” depends on “requiring gun registration.”  Even though HB 44 currently contains prohibitions on the development of a state or local registry of gun buyers, supporters of the bill are likely to eventually claim the need to repeal these important protections in order to enforce its provisions.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150204/new-mexico-anti-gun-house-bill-44-to-receive-public-hearing-on-saturday-february-7

Arkansas: Campus Carry Bill to be Considered by House Committee Tomorrow

Gabby Giffords’ gun control group, Americans for Responsible Solutions (ARS), ought to rename themselves “Anti-Gunners for Irresponsible Statistics” in light of their “bogus claim … about the number of firearm and car accident deaths among young people each year.”

According to the NRA-ILA, ARS “claimed that there are more than 30,000 firearm-related deaths, plus more than 30,000 car accident deaths among young people each year.” However, the NRA-ILA points to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) numbers, which show the number of accidental deaths among young people aged 0 to 19 years was 3,753 in 2013, while accidental firearm-related deaths for that same year were 124.

They use 2013 because that is the most recent year for which data is reported.

Even if all deaths are included–rather than accidental deaths only–the CDC shows all car deaths among young people 0 to 19 in 2013 was 3,776, while the number for all firearm-related deaths for young people age 0 to 19 was 2,465.

In other words, no matter how you look at it, ARS’s claims do not add up.

It should be noted that the claim that caught the NRA-ILA’s attention was ARS’s projection that “2015 will be the first year young Americans are more likely to die to from gun violence than car accidents.” Note that the ARS had to include all gun deaths–intentional and accidental–rather than only accidental car deaths to get the numbers close enough to keep the projection from being immediately discarded.

In fact, the NRA-ILA described it best as a “bogus claim.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/03/nra-ila-gabby-giffords-gun-control-group-just-making-stuff-up/

Since when is anything spouted by any anti-gun group not based on lies,half-truths and obfuscation?

State lawmakers from Kansas and Missouri announced a bistate, bipartisan effort Friday to reduce gun violence.

Kansas Rep. Barbara Bollier joined Missouri Rep. Stacey Newman to pitch bills, recently introduced in Topeka and Jefferson City, that would establish firearms restrictions for people with domestic violence or stalking restraining orders or convictions.

“The public gets it completely,” said Bollier, a Republican from Mission Hills. A former practicing physician, Bollier described gun violence as “a public health issue.”

Newman, a Democrat from Richmond Heights in St. Louis County, said her bill includes language that would allow law enforcement and family members to restrict those considered “in crisis” from gun possession. That measure, she said, is similar to California legislation signed into law soon after the shootings near the University of California-Santa Barbara campus last year.

Rep. Joe Don McGaugh, a Carrollton Republican, described the bill as “patently unconstitutional” because it has too few protections for gun owners before a court strips them of their Second Amendment rights.

“Everyone wants to keep firearms out of the hands of someone who is not competent to own them,” McGaugh said. “But I think what we should concentrate on is the individual and not the gun. Missouri law already allows those who are threats to be committed for mental health issues.”

Rep. Rick Brattin, a Harrisonville Republican, said the bill is unlikely to get a hearing. He said that because the bill allows “any person” to file a petition for a gun violence restraining order, it could be used to harass law-abiding gun owners.

The representatives were joined by a small crowd that included representatives from the Hope House and Rose Brooks domestic violence shelters, the League of Women Voters, Grandmothers Against Gun Violence, the Kansas City Health Commission and the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

Sound familiar? Dr. Vivek Murthy,our recently appointed surgeon general claims that gun violence is a “public health issue that must be addressed-as Dr. Murthy is an anti-gun zealot,and has zero real world medical experience-other than med school and his residency,during which he was under supervision by experienced Dr’s.

Murthy’s real-world experience consists of forming the group Dr’s for Obama,which then morphed into Dr’s for America,and writing an endless stream of anti-gun nonsense in the form of letters to Obama,congress and letters to the editor in many U.S. newspapers.

Murthy claimed he would not use his position as surgeon general to advocate for gun control.

He’s not-he’s getting others to do it for him,with the help of the usual suspects from the land of rainbows and unicorns-starting with the Brady campaign.

I smell Bloomberg’s $$$ in this horsepucky.

The anti-gun zealots are doing exactly what hizzoner claimed his millions would do,helped along by his front groups of like minded boot-licking sycophants.

Gun owners better start paying attention to this nonsense-as Bloomberg and his fellow wealthy anti-gun zealots are pushing this bullshit in every state that they think they might have a chance of getting it on the ballot,and then signed into law by fellow anti-gun zealots and imposed on gun owners second amendment right to keep and bear arms.

Bloomberg’s bootlicker stated the following…

“The public gets it completely,” said Bollier, a Republican from Mission Hills. A former practicing physician, Bollier described gun violence as “a public health issue.”

Murthy+Bloomberg+ existing anti-gun groups/orgs = I-594 like “gun control” measures being enacted in multiple states.

The NRA,GOA,NAGR,et-al allowed I-594 to be passed by voters by using lies,half-truths and obfuscation-and having said nonsense spewing forth from the tee-vee all across Washington state.

Voters who know nothing about firearms or gun laws do not understand that “gun control” laws only affect gun owners who follow the law in the first place-no additional “gun control” law will prevent “gun violence” because those intent on committing “gun violence” will do so no matter how strict the gun laws are.

Mexico,along with most of Central America have very strict “gun control” laws in place-yet these countries have the highest rates of “gun violence” on the planet.

It’s up to gun owners to call,write,e-mail,fax and to gather signatures of registered voters so that petitions can be delivered to Bloomberg’s bootlicking minions in the statehouses.

Pay attention,and work to stop this horsepucky-or we will all see nonsense like Washington state,Mass,Colorado,Conneticut,Commiefornia and NY state enacted in our own states.

Get motivated,get organized,protest,do whatever it takes-but do not allow this kind of bullshit to become law-in any more states.

The anti-gun zealots will never,ever stop-unless they attain their goal of a ban on all civilian ownership of firearms.

Hmmmm…

Posted: February 1, 2015 by gamegetterII in anti-gun asshattery
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