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As President Obama dodges a reminder of the veterans’ health-care scandal this week, the Department of Veterans Affairs is offering free gun locks to veterans if they provide details on the number of guns they own and their home address, raising concerns about a government-run gun registry.

Some veterans have received a form letter in recent days from the VA offering gun locks if they return a completed form listing their name, address and number of guns in the home.

“As your partner in healthcare, we are committed to keeping you and your family safe,” states the letter, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Times. “Gun locks have been shown to greatly reduce death and injury caused by firearms in the home. If you own a gun, we hope you will request and use a gun lock.”

The letter said agency officials “hope to reach all our veterans with this offer.” The VA said it will mail the locks to the address provided by a veteran.

One veteran who received the letter said it raises concerns about “a gun registry in disguise.”

“Young soldiers are already notoriously reluctant to admit any problems with post-traumatic stress disorder,” said the veteran, who asked to remain anonymous.

“Imagine the effect if the average 23-year-old private … back from Iraq, already reluctant to ask for help … is now hearing rumors that if he seeks help from the VA for sleeplessness, PTSD, nightmares, etc., Big Brother is going take his guns away? Now young veterans will really avoid asking for help,” the veteran said.

ATF head Jones operates under the watchful eye of AG Holder to enact more executive controls over guns.

ATF head Jones operates under the watchful eye of AG Holder to enact more executive controls over guns.

In its first ruling of 2015, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has held that businesses may not allow individuals to use their equipment to further process incomplete firearm blanks, frames and receivers , attorney Joshua Prince reported Saturday. Such businesses may not assist or provide machinery access to unlicensed individuals without being licensed firearms manufacturers.

The ruling, signed by ATF Director B. Todd Jones on Friday, also holds that the businesses must “identify (mark) any such firearm and maintain manufacturing records,” and that Gun Control Act requirements may not be avoided by allowing persons to perform processes on machinery, tools and equipment a business controls access to. Excluded from the ruling are weapons and devices regulated by the National Firearms Act.

The effect of this ruling will be to close down operations in which persons who are legally entitled to manufacture their own firearms for personal use are permitted by a business to use its equipment, either with instruction or without. Provided such firearms are not intended to be sold or distributed, marking and record-keeping requirements do not apply. By changing the rules, ATF has closed down a means by which people who lack the equipment themselves to finish off a part will be able to exercise their right to build a firearm, a practice many rely on, particularly when completing so-called “80 percent” precursor receivers.

That will not “end an era of 80% lowers,” Prince assesses, “but it will cause a substantial financial impact to the firearms and related industries … Nothing in this Ruling suggests that an individual can no longer manufacture a personal firearm without needing to mark it but the individual must be able to complete the firearm with his/her/its own tools, which causes a plethora of concerns in such process.

“Can a company offer membership, whereby any member is entitled to utilize the company equipment for free, and the member complete his/her/its firearm on the company equipment since the business would not be engage in the business?” he asks. “Do machine shops now need to inquire of the individual as to what he/she/it is going to be utilizing the machinery for?”

The answers to those and more questions are unclear and may be learned by some the hard way. For now, it would appear ATF’s motivation is to shut down as many “lawful” avenues for individuals to exercise their rights without federal oversight as it can.

http://www.examiner.com/article/atf-position-on-equipment-use-threatens-private-gun-making?CID=examiner_alerts_article

Since when can the BATFE just make up new laws? Only congress can make new laws,the jackbooted thugs at BATFE can not make up shit as they go to further Holder and Jones’s anti-gun agenda.

Horsepucky like this is yet another in a long list of reasons that people need to set up their own “maker spaces” or Patriot spaces,or whatever you want to call them. We need to set up small shops where we can manufacture stuff to bring in income,there’s all kinds of work that machine shops would rather subcontract out as job lots because some processes are very labor intensive and time consuming-which does not help them pay off the half-million or more dollar turning center they just bought on payments. Most of these jobs only require a lathe,milling machine,drill press,grinders,bandsaw,maybe cutting torches and a wire-feed welder.

Get a few guys-or ladies- together,put all the tools together,then either put all the tools in one garage or pole barn,or have each guy do his-or her-part of the machining process in their garage/pole barn/shop,and you end up with an income source with the added benefit of having the equipment to manufacture anything you want or need to manufacture.

The concept of maker spaces/patriot spaces was brought up on WRSA and by Fabbersmith-now would be a good time to get your maker space together-before Mr. Jones and the BATFE decide no one can purchase a lathe or milling machine without approval from BATFE.

The BATFE leadership and their stormtroopers do not have you best interests in mind as they try to further their anti-gun,anti-freedom agenda.

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Sophisticated Barack Obama reassures primitive tribal leader Vladimir Putin after making the moon "reappear" following a lunar eclipse.
Sophisticated Barack Obama reassures primitive tribal leader Vladimir Putin after making the moon “reappear” following a lunar eclipse.
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“Stop blaming mental health for gun violence,” former Everytown director Mark Glaze parroted in a Sunday tweet. “The problem is guns.”

Glaze must miss the influence he used to have back when he was stumping for edicts he knew damn well would be useless at stopping bad people from acting out on their natures. It must have been even more intoxicating to threaten America with his then-boss Bloomberg’s whole foot, and a positively heady experience to slap Brady Campaign rival Dan Gross around over who had dibs on useful celebrity idiots.

Regardless, he took to Twitter to refer his devotees to an editorial in The Washington Post by Kimberly Yonkers, MD, a professor at the Yale School of Medicine. The funny thing is, there are some gun owners, including me, who would agree with her initial premise, to stop blaming mental health. The not-so-funny thing is, they’re nowhere to be found when that’s followed up with the expectation that those in danger of legally-imposed gun disabilities for alleged mental health reasons must not lose fundamental rights without the benefit of full due process protections. Likewise, none of them are insisting those protections must include an accessible pathway to restoration of rights when evidence shows a disabling condition no longer applies.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/yale-gun-prohibitionist-shows-highly-developed-aversion-to-inconvenient-truths?CID=examiner_alerts_article

The idea of background checks for firearm purchases seems to sound sensible, but the reality is much different from the appearance. In truth, expecting firearm background checks to stop criminals is like trying to catch a few particular salmon during spawning season by placing a rock in the middle of the stream and watching for the specific fish to jump over the rock.

specious: adjective:
superficially plausible, but actually wrong.
“a specious argument”
misleading in appearance, especially misleadingly attractive.
– merriam-webster.com

There are more than 15 million NICS background checks processed every year, totaling over 180 million checks since the program’s inception in 1998. Between 98% and 99% of those checks were on regular, unrestricted people – most of whom already own at least one firearm. Of the few prohibited persons caught trying to purchase a firearm, the vast majority didn’t realize they were prohibited, and who had no criminal intent. In 2010, which is typical of recent years, only about 60 individuals – out of 15 million – were considered worthy of prosecution, and only 13 people – out of 15 million – were actually convicted of illegally trying to purchase a firearm. Not a very impressive return from a program that infringes on an enumerated constitutional right – that “shall not be infringed” – and has cost taxpayers an estimated $2 billion dollars so far.

Now the same people who brought us this incredibly inefficient and wasteful system want to expand it to include private transfers between individuals. Again, the idea seems, on the surface, logical and reasonable. But again, it is just another rock in the stream – a minor obstacle at best. The arguments in favor of so-called “universal background checks” are, in part, an acknowledgement that the present system can’t work; there’s just too much stream around the rock. One more rock in a wide flowing stream won’t stop, or even perceptibly slow the flow. There will always be plenty of ways for those wishing to acquire guns for criminal purposes to easily get them. Criminals get guns by stealing them, buying them on the black market, or by convincing a girlfriend, family member, or paid associate to purchase them.

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/false-promise-background-checks

Justification for New Gun Control Regulations

  • ATF’s internal Public Affairs Talking Points show the agency was using Fast and Furious to help justify new gun control regulations–without telling the public that ATF was actually facilitating the delivery of weapons to Mexican drug cartels.
  • The talking points (p. 15) state:

“These cases demonstrate the ongoing trafficking of firearms by Mexican DTO’s and other associated groups operating in Arizona and the need for reporting of multiple sales for certain types of rifles in order to ferret out those intent on providing firearms to these criminal groups.”

 Gunwalking Tactics

  • While the Department of Justice was still insisting the gunwalking was a renegade operation conducted by rogue agents in Phoenix, the documents make clear ATF headquarters in Washington D.C. knew that weapons were being allowed to flow to Mexican drug cartels.
  • For example, Fast and Furious began in October 2009. Washington D.C. talking points recount (p. 17) that:

“From October 2009 through October 2010, this organization, through the use of numerous straw buyers, purchased approximately 1.25 million dollars in firearms from FFLs [Federal Firearms License’s] in the Phoenix area and trafficked the firearms into Mexico and other locations within the United States.”

  • Another example is an October 12, 2010 funding request to ATF headquarters in Washington D.C. (p. 40) from Phoenix Special Agent in Charge Bill Newell. It stated, in present tense (making clear that ATF was aware, in real time, that the weapons were being transported by ATF suspects to cartels on a continuing basis):

“The firearms are then being trafficked into Mexico using non-factory compartments in various vehicles through various Ports of Entry (POE’s) in Arizona and Texas. Since the ATF case was initiated, agents have identified approximately twenty-seven straw purchasers who have purchased a large amount of AK-47 style rifles and pistols from various FFLs in the Phoenix Metropolitan area and Prescott, Arizona, since September 2009.”

Millions of Dollars: Mission Not Accomplished?

  • The documents hint at the cost of the umbrella program that was responsible for Fast and Furious: Project Gunrunner.

(p. 6) The FY 2009 Omnibus Appropriations Act provided ATF with an “additional $5 million for Project Gunrunner.”
(p. 7) The Stimulus plan provided ATF with $10 million more for Project Gunrunner.
(p. 29) ATF received $37.5 million for Project Gunrunner in the 2010 emergency supplemental appropriation for border security.

  • The documents discuss that ATF developed Project Gunrunner in 2006 to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico and thereby deprive the narcotics cartels of weapons. (Instead, ATF agents helped deliver thousands of assault rifles and other weapons into cartel hands.)
  • As ATF became better funded by tax dollars and better staffed, gun trafficking and drug cartel-related violence escalated.

Justice Dept. Withholding Statistics

The Justice Department has repeatedly refused Congressional and media requests for reports on the violent crimes in which “walked” guns have been used. The newly-released documents confirm ATF has meticulously collected and reported such data in the past (p.39). In a case called “Operation Zebra,” ATF stated that 338 illegally purchased firearms were associated with 63 deaths: “18 law enforcement officer sand civilians, and 45 cartel gunmen.”

Redactions

A number of mysterious redactions remain in the 60-page document grouping. These include:

  • (p. 15)
  • (p. 30)
  • (p. 39)
  • (p. 40)
  • (p. 43)
  • (p. 52) Internal document dated Jan. 10, 2011 mentions Fast and Furious connection to Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s death, though the Justice Department had decided not to release that information to the public. The document contains redactions.

http://sharylattkisson.com/belatedly-released-and-revealing-fast-furious-docs/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SharylAttkisson+%28Sharyl+Attkisson%29

“Refusal as a weapon. There is NO unconstitutional law that Mike Bloomberg can buy that we cannot nullify with armed civil disobedience.”

They can jail us. They can shoot us. They can even conscript us. They can use us as cannon-fodder in the Somme. But… but, we have a weapon more powerful than any in the whole arsenal of their British Empire. And that weapon is our refusal. Our refusal to bow to any order but our own, any institutions but our own. — Liam Neeson portraying Michael Collins, 1996.

“Mike Bloomberg thought he was on a roll. In the wake of Sandy Hook, his money managed to buy unconstitutional legislation in Connecticut, Colorado, Maryland and New York. In the election just past, his money staved off defeat for two governors who did his bidding, although as Wellington said about Waterloo, it was “the nearest run thing you ever saw.” Most importantly — and the latest jewel in his anti-firearm crown — his money and that of Bill Gates, Paul Allen and other like-minded elitists “bought the mob” (in the parlance of the Founders) with the success of I-594 in Washington state.

Yes, Bloomberg was on a roll. The so-called “mainstream” gun rights organizations, from the NRA to Alan Gottlieb’s Second Amendment Foundation and all the smaller spin-offs in the affected states, had no answer to Bloomberg’s millions and refused to put their own rivalries and jealousies aside to find one. This is hardly a surprise, since almost all of these groups have always been more about raising money to “fight gun control” than actually FIGHTING gun control. Each has been more obsessed with their own reputation in the collectivist-dominated press and their obsession to “win friends and influence people” in the middle. So, following their long-established patterns and refusals to think and act outside the boxes they placed themselves in, they lost. They lost in Connecticut, they lost in Maryland, they lost in New York, they lost in Colorado and now they have lost in Washington state.

In each case, Bloomberg understood his enemies, their foibles and their failures far better than they understood him. So he won and they lost.

But then something happened that Bloomberg in his arrogance never expected, something that the “mainstream gun rights organizations” for their part never expected either — in every single state where Bloomberg had “won,” it turned out that the victims of his unconstitutional laws had other ideas. And they didn’t need “leaders” like Wayne LaPierre and Alan Gottlieb to lead them.

The “I Will Not Comply” movement in the various affected states began the instant Bloomberg’s Intolerable Acts were passed. Individual firearm owners, led here and there by some courageous activists of the smaller rights groups who were not so worried about raising money and preserving their press image than their “betters,” simply announced that they would not obey such unconstitutional laws. They refused to cooperate in their own disarmament. They refused to obey. If the government wanted to make them criminals, well, then, they would be criminals and they dared the authorities to do anything about it.

And the authorities did . . . nothing. When it became apparent that Connecticut was experiencing a stunning non-compliance rate approaching 85 percent, Mike Lawlor, the governor’s appointed “gun commissar” in that state made threatening noises. But the raids did not begin. And now, almost two years later, they still haven’t begun. In New York, the non-compliance rate is even higher, with county sheriffs even threatening to arrest state policemen who seek to enforce the SAFE Act in their jurisdictions. And Governor Cuomo has done . . . nothing.

In Colorado, on the day the magazine ban went into effect in July 2013, resisters gathered on the statehouse steps and broke the law. And the authorities did. . . nothing. After I announced on 20 April 2013 on the steps of the Connecticut state capitol that I had smuggled in forbidden magazines in violation of their diktat, Lawlor had the state police open a criminal investigation of me, but did . . . nothing. Since then my friends and I have smuggled in more such magazines to that state and the authorities have done . . . nothing. I even recently attended a gun show in CT simply to give the authorities a chance to arrest me if they felt froggy enough. And they did . . . nothing. The raids have not begun. The state and its newly felonized citizens have been looking at each other with firearms in their hands for almost two years now. Yet the other jackboot has not dropped. And the authorities, as with those in other states with Bloomberg Rules, don’t know whether to defecate or go blind. Consequently they have done . . . nothing.

This refusal, this armed civil disobedience, reached its highest expression to date with the “I Will Not Comply” rally at the state capitol in Olympia on the 13th of this month. Two thousand armed people met, without a permit, defied I-594, held a successful rally without incident, and the authorities did . . . nothing. I was privileged to speak at this historic event as well. I will go back to Yakima in June for a planned gun show that will refuse to conduct the 594-required background checks and we will give the authorities a chance to enforce their new Bloomberg Rules.

And where are the “mainstream gun rights groups” in this national campaign of armed civil disobedience which has negated the results of Bloomberg’s money, his so-called “victories”? Why, they’re nowhere to be found. They have either condemned them or ignored them. In a recent interview, Alan Gottlieb, — who was apparently vacationing in Hong Kong on the proceeds of his members’ dues while the brave men and women of his state were risking arrest defying I-594 — denied that the rally was in fact “armed civil disobedience” because, he ludicrously claimed, “most people there weren’t armed.”

And if you didn’t get the underlying message, he went on to say “I don’t think it helped us with the general public. It doesn’t help us with the public or the legislators.” And, he added, “I’m not a fan of armed civil disobedience.”

Coming from a guy who has never risked more than a paper cut opening fundraising envelopes . . . coming from a guy who was willing to trade away national background checks in the immediate aftermath of Sandy Hook . . . this was hardly surprising. He will do what he has always done when confronted with Bloomberg Rules. If he cannot sue it, if he cannot lobby a “compromise” that gives up a little more of other people’s essential liberties and property, he will do . . . nothing.

Yet such “leaders” risk exposure and irrelevance in the new shifting paradigm. Legal challenges on all these Intolerable Acts are working their way through the courts. All have, up to now, failed. Elections have been fought and lost. Lobbying has been redoubled. Indeed, in the same interview Gottlieb asserted that the emergency was so grave that they had hired another lobbyist!

But the practitioners of armed civil disobedience, the resistance behind enemy lines in Connecticut, New York, Maryland, Colorado and Washington state, have ALREADY NULLIFIED BLOOMBERG RULES. And Michael Bloomberg himself doesn’t seem to know whether to defecate or go blind.

The failures of the “mainstream gun rights groups” to protect liberty and property from Bloomberg’s assaults have forced the American people — an eminently practical people — to make their own arrangements. If this risks exposing the increasing irrelevance of such groups there is nothing we can do about it. (Although there is certainly something THEY can do about it — thinking and acting outside the boxes of their own comfort zones would be a good start.) But the fact of the matter is that, as demonstrated now by almost two years of experiences THERE IS NO UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW THAT MIKE BLOOMBERG CAN BUY THAT WE CANNOT NULLIFY WITH ARMED CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.

Refusal is a weapon. It is a weapon that has been used to good effect in this country since the time of the Founders. Michael Bloomberg’s Rules are negated by the Law of Unintended Consequences. And looking back on the past two years of expensive laws and craven legislators bought and sold that all of his “victories” required, Bloomberg must be wondering this Christmas why it is that someone crapped in his stocking. He should be celebrating. Instead he has been frustrated, as the Founders intended, by the refusal of the armed citizenry of the United States to bow down to him and his tyrannical kind.”

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/12/refusal-as-weapon-there-is-no.html

 

Today at a public signing ceremony, Governor John Kasich (R) signed into law House Bill 234, comprehensive pro-gun reform legislation.  HB 234 will take effect in ninety days.

While originally a bill allowing for the use of suppressors while hunting, the Senate Civil Justice Committee added many other pro-gun provisions to HB 234.  HB 234 then passed in the Ohio Senate by a 24 to 6 vote on December 9, and was concurred by the state House of Representatives by a 72 to 21 vote on December 10.

HB 234 makes a number of positive changes to Ohio’s firearm laws.  HB 234, as signed into law:

  • Improves the concealed handgun license process by (1) reducing the number of training hours required from 12 to 8 hours, (2) eliminating minimum length-of-residency requirements, (3) allowing non-residents who work in Ohio to apply for a CHL in the county or adjacent county in which they work, and (4) makes special provisions for members of the military who have been honorably discharged or retired, extending their competency certification from six years to ten years after honorable discharge or retirement.
  • Expands concealed carry reciprocity to visitors and persons temporarily in Ohio who have valid out-of-state licenses, regardless of whether the license-issuing state has entered into a reciprocity agreement with Ohio.
  • Repeals the prohibition on Ohio citizens buying and/or selling long guns or ammunition from only the five contiguous states of Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Pennsylvania and West Virginia.  Citizens of Ohio can now purchase and/or sell rifles and shotguns in any state as long as the firearm laws in both states are obeyed.
  • Includes a “shall certify” provision which requires a chief law enforcement officer (CLEO) to sign off on an application to transfer an item regulated by the National Firearms Act, once the application procedure and requirements are met.  This provision eliminates personal bias towards NFA-related items, requiring CLEOs to sign off and process the application in the same way they do a concealed handgun license.
  • Allows for the use of firearm sound suppressors while hunting in the Buckeye State.
  • Brings Ohio’s definition of “automatic firearm” in line with the federal definition, limiting it to only any firearm designed or adapted to fire a succession of cartridges with a single function of the trigger.

Your NRA thanks you for your active involvement in the passage and enactment of HB 234, as well as the state legislators who voted for its passage.  We also thank Governor Kasich for signing this important pro-gun reform into law.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2014/12/ohio-comprehensive-pro-gun-reform-legislation-signed-into-law-today.aspx

Virginia Gov McAuliffe attends National Governors Assoc discussion on Growth and Jobs in America during its Winter Meetings in Washington

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Democratic Governor Terry McAuliffe of Virginia makes remarks during a “Growth and Jobs in America…

RICHMOND, Va. (Reuters) – Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, on Monday called to reinstate restrictions on the purchase of handguns, in a move that opponents described as unlikely to succeed with a Republican-dominated legislature.

McAuliffe asked lawmakers to reinstate a law allowing buyers to purchase only one handgun a month, which had been repealed during his Republican predecessor’s administration. He also wants to require private vendors at gun shows to run background checks on all prospective buyers.

“At gun shows, private vendors are not required to conduct criminal background checks, creating an easy avenue for criminals to illegally gain access to guns,” McAuliffe said. His call came the day after the second anniversary of a gunman’s rampage in Newtown, Connecticut, that killed 26 elementary school students and educators.

McAuliffe also aims to revoke concealed weapons permits for parents who are delinquent on child support payments and prohibit the possession of firearms for misdemeanor domestic violence offenders.

The head of a Virginia gun-rights group called the move political payback to former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an ardent gun-control activist who was a major donor to McAuliffe’s 2013 gubernatorial campaign.

“I think this is all politically motivated,” said Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, a gun rights group. “If anything, Virginia is more pro-gun than it was last year.”

The National Rifle Association, meanwhile, has said it financed $500,000 in ads on television and online striking out at McAuliffe’s views on firearms.

In 2013, gun sales in Virginia set a new high with nearly 480,000 transactions, according to state police statistics on the number of mandatory criminal background checks of gun purchasers.

Gun sales grew 10.8 percent over the previous record set just a year earlier.

Overall sales could be even higher, because state police don’t track private firearm transactions. Final sales numbers for 2014 aren’t in yet.

Thomas Baker, a criminologist and an assistant professor at Virginia Commonwealth University’s L. Douglas Wilder School of Government and Public Affairs, said McAuliffe’s gun control proposals could spur even more gun sales.

“Usually, when new policies restricting firearm purchases are proposed, we see a rise in firearm sales,” Baker said

http://news.yahoo.com/virginia-governor-seeks-reinstate-restrictions-handgun-sales-221451821.html

Amnesty will give a foreign culture demonstrably hostile to the right to keep and bear arms a significant say in legislation affecting it.
Amnesty will give a foreign culture demonstrably hostile to the right to keep and bear arms a significant say in legislation affecting it.
Photo by David McNew/Getty Images

Survey results made public Wednesday by Pew Research Center show public support for protecting gun rights on the rise across all demographics except for two notable categories, “liberal Democrats” and “Hispanics.” Significantly, the latest numbers also show the most dramatic increase in support for gun rights over gun control among African Americans, who registered a 25 percent gain to a majority position of acknowledging guns protect more than they put people at risk.

While the new survey may encourage gun rights activists to make inroads appealing to black voters to elect gun rights-supporting politicians instead of automatically giving power to anti-gun urban Democrats, attitudes expressed by Hispanics show overwhelming rejection of pro-gun political sentiment. With only 25 percent favoring laws protecting the right to own guns, 71 percent want government to “control ownership.”

That tracks with warnings issued by Gun Owners of America, curiously alone among national gun rights advocacy groups. GOA has warned that amnesty for illegal aliens, and a “pathway to citizenship,” will provide for millions of new anti-gun voters with the electoral clout to undo all hard-won legislative and judicial gains gun owners have enjoyed in recent years. That in turn has bearing on what Homeland Security Jeh Johnson, the official behind so-called “executive amnesty,” told the United Conference of Mayors in January, when he maintained that “the approximately 11 million people who are in the country illegally have ‘earned the right to be citizens.’”

With other gun groups justifying their inaction to take on amnesty under the “single issue” excuse that it’s not directly about guns, with establishment Republicans and their Chamber of Commerce patrons favoring labor that’s “cheap” for employers because true costs are borne by all and don’t appear on their books, and with Democrats and the mainstream media in lockstep with Barack Obama’s plan to “fundamentally transform America,” those opposing amnesty are becoming increasingly isolated.

If holdout gun organizations neither make politicians accountable for amnesty support, nor make the developing political gun rights threat known to their members, most gun owners may remain unaware, uninformed and unconvinced until it’s too late for them to seek political solutions. Indications are, such groups would not be motivated to alter a policy of deliberate indifference unless enough members to get their attention demanded it, and backed that up by loudly redirecting support to GOA.

That’s assuming it’s not already too late. Per CNS News, the spending bill passed Thursday by John Boehner “join[ing] forces” with Barack Obama “does not prohibit the president from using appropriated money to implement his plan to legalize illegal aliens, [meaning] the president may move forward–drawing taxed and borrowed money from the Treasury–to carry out this plan.”

All that’s left is what Gun Owners of America describes as a “a Hail Mary pass.” The group issued an alert Friday urging members to contact their senators “to say NO to the anti-gun funding bill.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/pew-poll-confirms-amnesty-a-danger-to-gun-rights?CID=examiner_alerts_article

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/should-all-convicted-felons-be-banned-from-having-guns-missouri/article_bf54b17a-896c-554d-8848-26bd1c26245c.html?mode=comments

There’s a couple good points raised in the article-and in the comments.

My opinion is this-since once a person is released from prison and/or probation/parole-their “debt to society” is considered to have been paid,yet they are punished for life-often for non-violent crimes.

There’s also a huge problem with all the things the states and feds now consider a felony.

There’s a book called “Three Felonies a Day”-it’s an eye opener.

There’s the fact that .gov inc. via the police and courts-especially the prosecutors-can charge,indict,and convict anyone they choose to of a felony,at any time they choose to.

There are far,far too many “crimes” that are classed as felonies.

There are even more that are classed as “crimes of violence” yet there was zero violence involved in the crime. That’s a huge problem in and of itself.

There is nothing in the bill of rights that says the states and feds can start making up new categories of crimes,and start labeling a lot of really,really ridiculous shit as a felony.

In some states,if you raise your voice during an argument with your wife-and your neighbors call the cops-you can be charged-and convicted of “domestic violence”. (ask me how I know)

Do it a second time-and it’s a felony.

There are hundreds of “crimes” that are classed as “crimes of violence” in which there is no violence-no one was harmed,no one was assaulted-yet they are considered to be “violent felonies”.

It was only in fairly recent times that a lifelong ban on gun ownership was created if you had a felony conviction-and there was less gun crime back then-back when a guy-or lady was released from prison,and their “debt to society” was considered to have been paid.

Heck,in the old days,when a guy was released from prison-he was given a $20.00 gold piece,a horse with saddle and tack,and a revolver with holster.

With all the bullshit that is classed as a felony these days-we need to go back to doing what was done in the past-once your prison term,or probation/parole is completed-you are a free man-or woman,and you get to vote,serve on juries,and keep and bear arms…

Enough of this bullshit where a person is punished for life for what in most cases was a mistake.

People do dumb shit when they are young-they didn’t used to be charged with a felony,convicted,and sent to prison for it-the sheriff,or city cop would lock them up for a few days,or let them sleep off a drunk-then they went on their way.

The punishment for the crime is the prison/jail sentence and/or parole/probation-that’s it.

Once a person serves their sentence-that should be it-end of story.

No more of this lifetime punishment-if a person is to be punished for life-then the sentence needs to fit the crime.

Only those who commit horrific,truly heinous crimes should lose their rights for life-and that would be because they are in prison for life.

All of these idiotic laws that take young kids and label them as felons are creating a whole class of people who are unemployable at any meaningful job for life.

Hell,you have to pass a background check to flip burgers at McD’s !!!!

No one with a felony conviction can ever work at a decent paying job-because they are labeled as a “felon” for life-this must stop.

There is absolutely zero value to society in labeling a person as a felon,making them pretty much a person reduced to performing some kind of menial labor for minimum wage for the rest of their life.

It’s not just about gun rights,it’s about an unfair and unjust “justice” system.

We,as a country,as a society,lock up more people than any other country in the world.

Who does this benefit? It sure as hell does not benefit society when you have millions of people who are labeled as felons walking around pissed off because they can not earn enough $$$ to support themselves,much less a family.

Incarcerating millions of people benefits .gov inc. it benefits those who own and/or operate jails and prisons-look no farther than Jeb Bush-he is part owner of private prisons-so you have politicians-a judge in Georgia who was caught sentencing people to jail for ridiculous shit just so the jail would be close to full,and he would make $$$ by locking people up.

Society does not benefit at all,not one bit from labeling millions of people as felons for life-there is simply no benefit,other than creating jobs for politicians friends that own jails and prisons.

Justice would be sentencing those who committed an actual crime of violence-as in rape,murder,armed robbery,arson,assault- during which a person is actually seriously hurt- to a long prison term.

The only people who should lose their gun rights are those who commit the crimes listed above-those are the people that if they are prevented from owning firearms would benefit society.

All those who are now labeled as felons for life do not deserve to lose their gun rights for crimes that are not related to guns.

All those who are now labeled as felons for life should have that label removed so that they can again get a decent job,be able to support themselves-and a family-and so they don’t end up as cheese eaters and part of the free shit army for life because they can not get a decent job.

They also deserve to be able to defend themselves and their families.

If .gov inc. makes everything a “felony”-it’s easier for .gov inc. to control people.

That’s the path we are on…

.gov inc. keeps making more and more things a “felony” as they do this-more and more people lose some of their rights,fewer and fewer people will have rights.

It’s long past time to put and end to the “felon” label for life,and reserve that label for those who have committed serious,horrific,heinous crimes-instead of the guy who yelled at his wife a few times,and the second time the cops came-he was charged and convicted of ‘domestic violence” and he never lifted a finger in anger at his wife.

Don’t think that one’s possible? Guess again-happens every day to those who don’t have a few thousand dollars laying around to pay a lawyer.

Think about it-and tell me how it is a benefit to society to label people as a “felon”,and to keep them labeled as a “felon” even AFTER they have served the sentence imposed by the court?

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Do More PT!

Do some extra PT because it’s the holidays and you scarfed down  12 # of turkey,dressing and mashed taters on turkey day,and laid around on the couch watching football-and you will do the same on Christmas,new years,and pound a bunch of extra beers for the rest of the month of Dec.